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Election loss God’s veiled kindness?

Posted by Gary on November 20, 2012

“Behind a frowning providence, God hides a smiling face.” (William Cowper)

How do I as a Christian and pastor view the results of our recent national election in which our nation chose a President that supports infant murder and sodomy over a moral Mormon? Well, I would be lying if I did not say that I am grieved that America chose Barack Obama as its President again. Our nation is determined to perish and is consciously choosing our ruin, even voting for it. May God have mercy on us.

Would I have been comforted if Mitt Romney had won? Only minimally. I am afraid that American Christians have traded gospel righteousness for mere human morality. The simple truth is that Mitt Romney’s morality does not flow from Christ’s righteousness for Romney’s gospel is another gospel which is not from God and is to be condemned:

Galatians 1:6-8 “I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting Him who called you by the grace of Christ, for a different gospel; which is really not another; only there are some who are disturbing you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed!” 

God is sovereign and He has spoken, Barack Obama is our President and so obviously it was not God’s will for America to be led by a moral Mormon. God has withheld from His people the place of power we so desperately sought and why? Could it be that He in His kindness is going to cause us to depend on His power? I would ask my fellow Christians if they really think that the morality that Mitt Romney would have brought with him into the Presidency was going to save us? Might it not actually have lulled us into a false sense of Godliness when God is not in it at all?

Christians are deflated since Mitt Romney lost and may it cause us to see how much we had put our hope in a prince (Psalm 118:9, Psalm 146:3). Maybe by allowing a clearly Godless person to win the election God is sparing us the false security of a mere, human morality embodied in Governor Romney. Now we know what we are dealing with and there is no help to send for from Washington. Maybe now, we will be forced to depend upon God and find in Him what we need to be His faithful people.

As I reminded my congregation this past Sunday, Christians in the first century under a Godless Roman empire had no say whatsoever over their government yet were accused of turning the world upside down!:

Acts 17:5-6 “But the Jews, becoming jealous and taking along some wicked men from the market place, formed a mob and set the city in an uproar; and attacking the house of Jason, they were seeking to bring them out to the people. When they did not find them, they began dragging Jason and some brethren before the city authorities, shouting, “These men who have upset the world have come here also…”

Would it be wonderful if we had truly Godly men leading our country? Of course it would. But are we hopeless without such? Are we acting hopeless? I am afraid we are. While political involvement is not wrong for Christians it is a slippery slope that we seem determined to fall on. We can’t seem to keep our hope and focus on God and His power so perhaps He is going to force us to. If so, wouldn’t that be kind of Him?


7 Responses to “Election loss God’s veiled kindness?”
  1. Mercedes Ferrari says:

    I was deeply grieved when, before the elections, I found out that Billy Graham’s website had deleted the differences between true Christians and Mormons and Billy Graham Jr. had agreed to meet with Mitt Romney. I was even more grieved when I saw links to Mitt Romney’s website in some Christian websites. Pastor Gary, I wish to thank you for clarifying one more time that Mormons are not Christians and that “The simple truth is that Mitt Romney’s morality does not flow from Christ’s righteousness for Romney’s gospel is another gospel. which is not from God and is to be condemned.”

  2. Mark Sebastian says:

    I have to be honest and say I was also very deflated after Romney lost the election thinking that a man being a moral and decent person should be the leader of our country. Knowing he follows a different Gospel was not as important to me as knowing his predecessor follows a different God. But as you said, at least now we know what is in front of us.
    It’s just sad to see a majority of our nation being lured away from God and doing wrong and believing it’s right.
    Taking favor from our government first over their beliefs in our God can only lead in great despair.
    I appreciate what you wrote and will pass it on.

  3. Dave Loux says:

    Shouldn’t we be praying for president Obama? Not just praying that he doesn’t run this country into the ground, but for his salvation? And Mitt Romney believes in abortion in situations involving rape, correct? Neither of these candidates were “Godly men.” How many Presidents in our nations history were truly Godly men? Reagan? Maybe he was the last one, and the first since….no clue. Lincoln wasn’t even a church going man. Most of our nations founders weren’t even bible believing Christians, but, more or less deists.

    Calvin believed in a theocracy where biblical morality ruled. He’d have spies out in the streets listening to peoples conversations and if they used any profanity or slander, they would be punished. This system didn’t work, and drove the people away from God. Why can’t the church just focus on what Christ calls us to; spreading the amazing word of our one true God, not forcing it down the unbelievers throat. Crooked politicians that are scrutinized for all their actions are the last people that should be enforcing Christian law.

    The bible calls government to protect the people and obtain peace in their land, (and of course the lives of ALL humans, even the unborn ones).

    • Gary says:

      Dear Dave, Yes…we should be praying for President Obama and I challenged the congregation about this including the concern for his soul. I am giving you the audio link for that message here. Because President Obama should be prayed for does not mean that his actions should not be called what they are and challenged by God’s people. Hitler should have been prayed for and Stalin and all the other world’s leaders who have been instruments of evil. Our American Presidents are just far more subtle in that we have legislated our evil and they can now even claim they are defending the Constitution as they use their authority to bring about the death of 1500 infants a day in America.

      As to the founders being Deists, I would caution you…I am still waiting for the list of the men by name and the written proof from their writings in which they claimed to be Deists. Everyone is out to define the Founding Fathers and of course the world’s education wsystem would have you and I believe they were almost all Deists, the proof please.

      Whether they were Deists or Christians is neither here nor there now, the simple fact is that under the Founding Fathers God was in public life and revered and it was specifically the God and Father of Jesus Christ that the Founders welcomed into national life. It doesn’t matter what they were in one sense, what did they advocate, permit and encourage in regard to God and where are we in comparison today? That is the issue.

      I won’t say much on Calvin except to say Geneva asked him to come back and so I am not sure it was as bad as the God-haters would have us think. Would we rather have our wives out on a trip to the store at night in Calvin’s Geneva or Obama’s America? I am wondering brother how you have come to have such a view of God’s use of His servants? I wonder too about the accuracy of the depiction of “forcing down unbelievers throats” God’s truth and ways. Until you and I have been used to the degree Calvin has, should we not be careful about such a harsh judgment? Do you think Calvin did not have as his pursuit a desire to spread the amazing Word of God? I think he suffered more for his efforts than you and I put together times a thousand. Perhaps Calvin believed more was at stake than we do. Perhaps the day he lived in took things more seriously then we do.

      Thanks for your thoughts brother. Hope you have a great Thanksgiving.

      Warmly, Gary

    • Mercedes Ferrari says:

      Dear Gary,
      Your response to Dave Loux brought me back to my days of postgraduate studies of American literature and history and to the many years I spent in “the world’s education system.” In those days, faced with the responsibility to impart some knowledge of true Christian thinking and the amazing spiritual journey of the early Pilgrims and Plymouth Plantation, I spent many hours in the secondary classroom teaching about the Puritans and assigning to students the reading of their texts—William Bradford, Ann Bradstreet, Cotton Mather, Jonathan Edwards. When it came to the American War of Independence and the Declaration of Independence, I presented the Founding Fathers as predominantly Deists because in my university studies, I had been directly exposed to their thinking by reading their works. Could I have been wrong? To answer this question, I went back to the Founding Fathers texts and found the needed proofs you refer to in your response to Dave Loux. While I cannot give you a long list of authors and texts because of the space limitations of my answer to your blog—and my answer by the way is already too long– I thought that the following excerpts from Thomas Jefferson’s writings may be useful in assessing how he felt about the Christian God, the Holy Bible, and Calvin.
      The following are some excerpts from writings penned by Thomas Jefferson. They are primary sources, therefore reliable. They are not definitions given by the world’s education system. The whole letter is also available online.

      Letter from Thomas Jefferson to John Adams[the 18th century spelling of some words has not been altered]

      April 11, 1823
      “DEAR SIR, — The wishes expressed, in your last favor, that I may continue in life and health until I become a Calvinist, at least in his exclamation of `mon Dieu! jusque à quand’! would make me immortal. I can never join Calvin in addressing his god. He was indeed an Atheist, which I can never be; or rather his religion was Daemonism. If ever man worshipped a false god, he did. The being described in his 5. points is not the God whom you and I acknowledge and adore, the Creator and benevolent governor of the world; but a daemon of malignant spirit. It would be more pardonable to believe in no god at all, than to blaspheme him by the atrocious attributes of Calvin. Indeed I think that every Christian sect gives a great handle to Atheism by their general dogma that, without a revelation, there would not be sufficient proof of the being of a god. Now one sixth of mankind only are supposed to be Christians: the other five sixths then, who do not believe in the Jewish and Christian revelation, are without a knowledge of the existence of a god!”

      “And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter.”

      “This gives completely a gain de cause to the disciples of Ocellus, Timaeus, Spinosa, Diderot and D’Holbach. The argument which they rest on as triumphant and unanswerable is that, in every hypothesis of Cosmogony you must admit an eternal pre-existence of something; and according to the rule of sound philosophy, you are never to employ two principles to solve a difficulty when one will suffice. They say then that it is more simple to believe at once in the eternal pre-existence of the world, as it is now going on, and may for ever go on by the principle of reproduction which we see and witness, than to believe in the eternal pre-existence of an ulterior cause, or Creator of the world, a being whom we see not, and know not, of whose form substance and mode or place of existence, or of action no sense informs us, no power of the mind enables us to delineate or comprehend. On the contrary I hold (without appeal to revelation) that when we take a view of the Universe, in it’s parts general or particular, it is impossible for the human mind not to perceive and feel a conviction of design, consummate skill, and indefinite power in every atom of it’s composition.”
      Another primary source proof is “The Jefferson’s Bible: the Life and Moral of Jesus of Nazareth.” In this book, Jefferson compiled in chronological order the teachings of Jesus selecting what he thought were “diamonds” of wisdom” and separating them from New Testament passages that he thought were contrary to reason and that he defined a “dunghill.”
      These writings ought to give us pause for thought.Not all Founding Fathers thought exactly like Jefferson, but Deism was the predominant philosophy of their period. They welcomed God and Jesus Christ into national life, but would we advocate and encourage the reading of the Jefferson’s Bible or his thoughts and beliefs as expounded in his letter? Whether the leading Founding Fathers were predominantly Deists or Christians is important now as it was back in their time because they they wrote about their views and influenced their contemporaries. In our own times there are still many people who read historical documents, study American writers, and are exposed to their version of Christianity.
      Thank you for listening the very “long” answer of a former English high school teacher.

  4. David Loux says:

    I agree with most of what you are saying. I am 100% pro-life, and believe that the government should repeal roe v wade. I just get worried about the church concerning themselves too much with politics. The evangelical right, in my opinion, has taken it too far. They believe that Israel is the Israel in the bible, and that God is a republican. (I know that you don’t believe either of those things). But, I disagree wholeheartedly with you about Calvin. Calvin was an incredible Christian man, more than I will ever be. But, if our government had video cameras and email surveilance (oh wait, they already have that) to check to see if we were sinning, than isn’t Calvin playing God? And don’t you think the majority of this nation would turn their backs to anything that involves God? Doesn’t the bible teach that the only purpose of government is to keep the peace in the land (punishment for murder and such)? And that it’s the church’s responsibility to discipline their members for unrepentant sinning?

    Just wondering.

    And, the more I read your blog, the more I realize I agree with you on nearly everything. I’m glad that you’re Corinna and I’s pastor and we love our church. I just wanted to throw this out there.

    And with the whole deist question (you’re right, it doesn’t even REALLY matter), but it was a history class at Geneva College that taught me that. Most leaders during the 17th and 18th centuries were deists and it was believed that most, i.e. Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson… (not all) were deists.

    Have a great Thanksgiving!!

    • Gary says:

      Dear Dave,
      Thanks for your thoughts, they are welcomed. I am glad to be pastor to you and Corinna and would be even if you didn’t agree with most of what is on my Blog:).

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